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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
我就知道搞着搞着就会百合起来。部分摇镜头和特写大可不必。（红色相机包和老柯的一模一样。）
第一部阿莫多瓦，但我可以肯定的是这部电影在他的作品序列中不算很好的。想塞的东西太多，却没有被充分稀释掉，残余的违和便留下来影响观影体验；关于女性意识和历史记忆的，反而都没怎么讲好，观影过程从眉头舒展到逐渐紧皱，看到lgbt情节时直呼不要，对人物形象没起到很大作用，像是强行的为了戏剧冲突而冲突，主线的狗血和副线的游离让人有点失望，但最后的镜头尤其赞。骚潘的表演相当好，在拿下威尼斯影后后，如若能一并封奥就很好，但是外语片加空降两大壁垒让封后实在有难度。
啊这，妇产科风波这个故事也太烂俗了吧，是不是有历史隐喻在里面我没看出来？整体来说查了点意思，对乱葬岗的发掘其实和故事本身好像没什么太大关系，槽点太多了一些，戏剧性感觉有些牵强，有些生拼硬凑，作为阿莫多瓦的片，感觉不算合格
WE SHOULD ALL BE FEMINISTS
当狗血情节有了套路，当画面只剩审美意义，不再能传达情感的镜头语言让表层叙事显得如此肤浅做作。两条线间有严重的割裂感，以至于隐喻和聚合的结尾都显得那样突兀且强行。这次，不是我喜欢那个阿莫多瓦，我走不进他的世界。
WE SHOULD ALL BE FEMINISTS
整体的衔接转折有点突兀；加莱亚诺的那句话值一颗星。
两人恋爱那段太动容，因为是孩子共同的母体而成为了彼此爱的容器。
阿莫多瓦的导演技术当然可以，但佩妮洛普发现孩子搞错后，不找医院解决不好理解，查出同产期婴儿做下生物鉴定很难吗？对孩子有了感情可以理解，可自己亲生的在外，好吗？
"WE SHOULD ALL BE FEMINISTS"
“We should all be feminists.” “无声的历史并不存在。”
"要着眼于未来，不然就只是不停的揭开旧伤疤罢了。"
在导演这里，似乎男人才是生育工具，提供颗精子就可以消失了，像抚养这种事只靠单亲妈妈就可以完成。
剧本问题有点大，如此黏合两个故事的结果就是两个故事都讲不好：当下的故事狗血；历史的故事空洞无力，缺少了点厚重。这部从剧本到布景到镜头都不够精细，有点像赶工之作。
克鲁兹真美。阿莫多瓦还是好好讲他的非常态人情关系比较好，硬要和历史作互文，感觉有点生硬。
2021M108/8.0 基因的传递与历史的传承如出一辙，对胶片的剪接和记载的涂抹无法更改基因的编码。真相不是不重要，而是人们越来越短视，只独善其身，没有将自己置于历史发展的长河之中，只有躺倒在坑墓，才会发现个体的群体性和历史的反复性。摄影一贯的出色，依旧是阿莫多瓦高饱和度的色彩，红色底色是不是致敬《黑客帝国》代表真相的红色小胶囊药丸？有些可惜的是政治有点盖过个体，而对个体的极尽毫发的描绘正是阿莫多瓦最棒的一点。
不少人评论说阿莫多瓦差了一点，在性别上也回归了异性恋，也没有处理好两个女人的关系发展，把历史介入也讲的不够有穿透力。而我要说的是，阿莫多瓦本来就不是表明什么特定的意识形态立场，也不是什么控诉社会和历史的作者，他的风格总是站在对人类关系的想象力中给予每个人一种平等的机会，关注的是人，而不是什么特殊的性别。再说回对历史批判的表现力，我觉得阿莫多瓦反而创造了一个哲学性的空间，一个更广泛的角度来思考人类，性别，和历史之间的某种平行关系，这样的作品是有丰富的旨趣的，并且给观众多种眼光看待自身经验。伟大的艺术总是用来触摸宇宙和心灵。
真的是从头打到尾没停过，“美国队长”成功打了酱油，想看两个主演对手戏的怕是要失望了，俩人真正打照面一共不超过20分钟吧…这电影的故事也千万别较真，简直是诸多同类型电影的大拼接。能看高司令的颜和肉还有好身手，还要啥自行车。
第一次觉得老莫想要表达的“母爱”是如此的空洞，太像挂墙上的圣母油画了，以小见大显得毫无温度，以至于目光全部投入到欣赏各种美轮美奂的家具装潢，植物的绿，窗帘的花，抱枕的黄，厨房的红，配色真是绝。
母亲的部分还是可以的，但是和追溯历史的部分完全没关系，割裂严重。
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