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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
只拍了一个月就杀青了， 这个水平可以理解。
where have you been, my blue-eyed son?
没有上一部《第一归正会》好看 施拉德真的一直在重复布列松加陀思妥啊 赌博跟复仇绑在一起感觉脸不到一块儿
导演功力不够 把主题拍得小而浅 但是镜头处理得很好 所以不至于给一颗星（只要忍住前一半的无聊还是能坚持看完的
文本显而易见的脱胎于《出租车司机》，但老马丁slashing而富有delicacy的掌控力却是施拉德力所不及的。
很意外很惊喜，空间的推拉固定，对观众的勾引挑衅，氛围的营造，都非常喜欢。尤其喜欢一种理科生一样的固定逻辑式的场景镜头，奥斯卡伊萨克也很有魅力。至于剧情，不需要为什么，感受就好。
左棍施拉德，面对几乎谈了半辈子的道德至上救赎母题，你还是不明白他为啥选择这么个片情设置，只能从看后的结果回推，算牌这种可以自己掌握大部分确定性，远胜过稍有意外的不确定性，提供了一种康德式把持救赎命运可能性的强控制，硬核的“劝人向善”算是自觉完成救赎，但是，代表未来的孩子，毕竟不是也永远不会是自己可控的属己之物，而总有超出自我的部分，大概就是道德律令般{但做好事、回报以至}的理性神学了，这份终会到来的救赎回报，在结尾，以施拉德自鸣得意、久久停留的《创造亚当》式构图结束，甚至还能看到些女性靠爱情挽救男性的女权意味，真是老旧亦或时髦的主题都雨露均沾了，学院应该有所表示。
部分桥段的镜头处理跟《第一归正会》一毛一样，当然这部更无聊也更陈旧
极简调度带来的张力几乎只维持了开场的二十分钟，之后就全面崩塌。难以想象保罗施拉德这种级别的创作者会做出这等简陋的分镜，所谓奇观时刻不及琳恩拉姆塞的尾尘。政治议题的融合较之《第一归正会》更加生硬。年度最失望之一
施拉德的救赎片，整体的框架源自他最推崇的《扒手》，一直到后来的《出租车司机》《美国舞男》再到这部，受过巨大创伤的边缘人，在现实生活与内心痛苦中挣扎，直到遇到可以拯救他内心的人，似乎找到了人生的方向，通过帮助对方，解救对方，同时完成对自己内心的救赎，最后释然，进入监狱，再与爱人隔着铁窗重逢，收获人世间最后爱情的美好，经典的剧本结构，每一幕都按计划进行。
因为就像他自己也一再强调的，赌博只是打发时间的方式，是手段，不是目的。就像金钱、荣誉和另一位选手高呼的“America”都从来不是目的。重要的，是成为人，是过日子，是重拾爱，是和罪恶的一切搏斗，去寻找救赎和审判罪行。
极简调度带来的张力几乎只维持了开场的二十分钟，之后就全面崩塌。难以想象保罗施拉德这种级别的创作者会做出这等简陋的分镜，所谓奇观时刻不及琳恩拉姆塞的尾尘。政治议题的融合较之《第一归正会》更加生硬。年度最失望之一
德扑只是一个噱头，一个包装罢了。本来就缺少必要的戏剧冲突，再不包装一下，岂不是半个小时就讲完了？
如果最后算总账的那场戏略去，给观众一个想象空间，我会给多一星。【观影史 211202】
做闷了我一般很难看进去
看着还不错的卡司阵容，装得特深沉地演了个B级片。
以全片做铺垫为了引导别人看爽快血腥的复仇结局。。。结果就这。。。
救命 奥斯卡真的狠狠戳我xp😍😍谢谢老爷子 很好代真的 7.5 故事真是讲得不疾不徐啊
扑克与复仇的两条叙事线似乎并没有做到很好的紧密结合，以至于故事不怎么让我信服。在看电影的时候一直在想如果是斯科塞斯的话，他会怎么拍。
从头喊到尾的usa，最后监狱成为归宿，一边反思一边讽刺，像是没有力气了。
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